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Re: Нууу, начинается )

Отправлено: Head 15:00 10/03/18

> > очень многие из них когда-то были приезжими ))) ну а > все остальные - детьми, впервые разбирающимися в >
подземке. > > И что с того? Они все уже привыкли к нынешним.

ну в 1991 массово поменяли названия. Произошла какая-то катастрофа?


> Ради удобства туристов и гипотетического удобства > будущих поколений – очевидные неудобства миллионам >
сегодня и завтра. Возмущений будет очень много.

но недолго. Но плохо, что возмущения будут не рациональные (так удобнее), а в виде мантр типа "историческое наследие" и
прочее не имеющее отношения к делу.



> > > > Пушкинская это ТОЧНОЕ место, в отличие от Тверской, > которой с равным успехом могли бы называться
и пара > других станций. > > Допустим. (Хотя в Москве полно станций, названных по > протяжённым объектам.)

это не проблема, я лишь говорю, что для данного узла "Пушкинская" самое адекватное.


> Что с Чеховской делать? Там оформление про Чехова )) > не про Пушкина.

ничего, навигацию сменить, оформление не трогать.




> > > > > > > ЦПУ? > > Центральный пересадочный узел. > Раньше был Пл. > Революции –
Пл. Свердлова – Просп. > Маркса :) > > > ну видимо Театральная ) ну или даже Центральная ) > >
Центральная – это как-то совсем )))) > провинциально, что ли :) Центр в Москве – минимум всё, > что в пределах
Садового. А то и ТТК. > > Театральная – допустим. Но с Театральной-1 нет > пересадки на Театральную-3 ;))

ну и что? в Лондоне например тоже не со всех станций Bank есть прямые пересадки на все прочие Bank. Это даже на схеме
отображено.



> > > > > Потом добавился Библ. им. Лен. – Арбатская – > > Боровицкая – Калининская (Ал. Сад). >
Выходы в разные > места, совсем. Путаница и так, а уж с > одинаковыми > названиями – страшно представить. >
> > ну там Кремлевская например. > > Название – полное беее. Но предположим. Выход к > Арбатской площади
(который нынче встроен в > МинОбороны) – Кремлёвская? К Дому Пашкова – тоже?

да, и чего? мало ли где куда какие выходы. В Токио (да и вообще в любой Японии и в любой Корее) выходов может быть двадцать
за много кварталов друг от друга.
ну и чтобы сильно далеко не ходить. Все ли выходы из скажем Площади Революции ведут на оную площадь? или хотя бы на место,
откуда она как-то просматривается и легко доступна? )) Все ли выходы из Спортивной ведут к какому-либо спортобъекту? ) и так
далее.
Или из свежего - обозвать ЦСКА станцию, которая в километре от основных стадионов ЦСКА - ничем не лучше.




> > Кремлёвская-9 тогда не имеет пересадки на > Кремлёвскую-4, кстати.

какой ужас. См. выше )



& > > А что - у там допустим Павелецкой, Белорусской и т.п. - > выходы не совсем в разные места? это приводит к
> страшной путанице или нет? ) > > На Белорусской с обеих станций есть выходы к вокзалу, > далеко от него
новый с Кольца. На Павелецкой вот нет с > Кольца выхода к вокзалу, это плохо, да. Но вокзал в > любом случае самый
важный объект.

так я не понял - происходит ли ужасная путаница? ))



> > > > разумеется на станциях надо сохранять указания на > прежние названия - примерно так, как указывают
на > табличках прежние названия улиц. > > Трэшак какой. )) Путаница будет ещё похлеще. Что за > станция
такая?)))

ой все ) перепутываются ли москвичи и гости столицы от табличек вида "Тверская (ранее Горького)"? )



> > > > Оформление на стенах тоже не трогать - лишь снабдить > станции интенсивной > новой навигацией.
> > Это как в Питере что ли, заклеить архитектуру цветными > лентами? Нет, спасибо.

архитектуру необязательно, но навигация должна быть интенсивной и отовсюду доступной, как в Лондоне.


> > > > Да и вообще цветовая индикация по большому счету > годится только для англоязычных стран. >
> Это почему?

потому что иностранные туристы будут использовать тот же язык.



> > > > По номерам (и простым коротким названиям) проще > всего. > > Вот по номерам людям, по
факту, неудобно (да я и сам их > не сразу вспоминаю, если честно, бо их уже 15 на схеме, > плюс 8А и 11А )).

вспоминаем об интересах приезжих и понимаем, что номера должны быть все равно.


> Простые названия вроде Кольцевая – употребляют > (Большая Кольцевая – пока рано оценивать). Филёвка > слышал
(но чаще голубая). Но остальное… Какие – > простые? Хотя бы для трёх-пяти линий примеры, плз ;)

Таганская
Тверская
Сити
Арбатская
хотел еще Мира предложить, но не знаю благозвучно ли это - линия Мира или там Мира линия ))


Комментарии:
Сергей Собянин открыл 5 новых станций метр - serg33 12:54 26/02/18
     • Замечу - Dionysos 14:02 26/02/18
          • Re: Замечу - Naure 15:15 26/02/18
               • Re: Замечу - Head 15:19 26/02/18
                    • Узнать-то всё можно было, но - Dionysos 16:01 26/02/18
                         • Узнать что? Что откроют сами станции? )) - Vsevolod 22:03 28/02/18
                              • Re: Узнать что? Что откроют сами станции? )) - Dionysos 22:29 28/02/18
                                   • Я не про схемы - Vsevolod 22:36 28/02/18
                                        • А, ну какие у нас даты :(( - Dionysos 22:43 28/02/18
                    • Re: Замечу - serg33 20:32 26/02/18
                         • Re: Замечу - Head 21:48 27/02/18
                              • Re: Замечу - serg33 06:43 28/02/18
                                   • Re: Замечу - Head 17:41 28/02/18
                                        • Re: Замечу - serg33 08:37 01/03/18
                                             • и очень плохо (-) - Head 11:16 01/03/18
                                                  • Re: и очень плохо (-) - serg33 17:13 02/03/18
                                                       • Re: и очень плохо - Head 19:48 02/03/18
                                                            • Re: и очень плохо - serg33 22:01 02/03/18
                                                                 • Re: и очень плохо - Head 15:42 03/03/18
                                                                      • Это конечно плохо, да (-) - serg33 11:11 04/03/18
               • Ну, справедливости ради… - Dionysos 15:59 26/02/18
                    • Re: Ну, справедливости ради… - Naure 16:32 26/02/18
                         • И так, и не так. - Dionysos 16:36 26/02/18
                              • Re: И так, и не так. - serg33 20:34 26/02/18
                                   • Про бум не спорю - Vsevolod 22:22 28/02/18
                                        • На плакатах и в релизах СтройМоса всегда гон - Dionysos 22:41 28/02/18
                                             • Re: На плакатах и в релизах СтройМоса всегда гон - Naure 02:15 01/03/18
                                                  • Нет, не считается (-) - Dionysos 03:12 01/03/18
     • Новенькое про МЦД - Dionysos 03:18 28/02/18
     • Скидочка на Сапсанчики СПб-НН - Dionysos 15:57 28/02/18
     • Re: Сергей Собянин открыл 5 новых - интересный случай (+) - DF 19:05 08/03/18
          • Re: вторую платформу на Полежаевской - Dionysos 21:43 08/03/18
               • Re: вторую платформу на Полежаевской - DF 22:59 08/03/18
          • Re: Сергей Собянин открыл 5 новых - интересный случай (+) - Head 23:49 08/03/18
               • Речь о Полежаевской-ТКЛ, а не о Хорошёвской-БКЛ :) (-) - Dionysos 01:21 09/03/18
                    • а - Head 02:19 09/03/18
                         • В конкретном случае это помогло бы не запутаться? :)) - Dionysos 02:59 09/03/18
                              • какой норматив? - Head 04:06 09/03/18
                                   • Re: какой норматив? - Dionysos 15:14 09/03/18
                                        • Re: какой норматив? - Head 15:29 09/03/18
                                             • Это да, хорошо, что отменили. Но... - Dionysos 15:53 09/03/18
                                                  • Re: Это да, хорошо, что отменили. Но... - Head 04:03 10/03/18
                                                       • Нууу, начинается ) - Dionysos 11:54 10/03/18
                                                            • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - Head 13:36 10/03/18
                                                                 • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - DF 13:42 10/03/18
                                                                 • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - Dionysos 14:29 10/03/18
                                                                      • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - Head 16:00 10/03/18
                                                                           • Названьица - А. Копцев 00:07 10/04/18
                                                                                • Re: Названьица - Head 08:40 11/03/18
                                                                                     • Re: Названьица - А. Копцев 13:58 11/03/18
                                                                                          • Re: Названьица - Head 18:15 11/03/18
                                                                                               • Re: Названьица - А. Копцев 21:42 11/03/18
                                                                                                    • Re: Названьица - Head 22:25 11/03/18
                                                                                                         • Re: Названьица - А. Копцев 10:20 12/03/18
                                                                                                              • Re: Названьица - Head 15:22 12/03/18
                                                                           • Отвечу, пожалуй, только на это: - Dionysos 04:00 11/03/18
                                                                                • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй, только на это: - Head 08:35 11/03/18
                                                                                     • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй, только на это: - Head 12:53 11/03/18
                                                                                     • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй - Dionysos 19:58 11/03/18
                                                                                          • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй - Head 20:15 11/03/18
                                                                                               • Re: пожалуй - Dionysos 17:54 12/03/18
                                                                                                    • Вдогонку: п.3 невозможен - Dionysos 18:16 12/03/18
                                                                                                         • Re: Вдогонку: п.3 невозможен - Head 19:56 12/03/18
                                                                                                              • Причём тут лондонцы? - Dionysos 21:27 12/03/18
                                                                                                                   • Re: Причём тут лондонцы? - Head 23:12 12/03/18
                                                                                                                        • Это плохие примеры, из серии - Dionysos 23:40 12/03/18
                                                                                                                             • Re: Это плохие примеры, из серии - Head 23:48 12/03/18
                                                                                                                                  • И две Арбатских и Смоленских - Dionysos 00:41 12/04/18
                                                                                                                                       • Re: И две Арбатских и Смоленских - Head 00:34 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • о времена - Head 00:54 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Наверное, я это и правда писал из апреля ) (-) - Dionysos 01:35 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                      • из первого? ) (-) - Head 03:22 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • Ах, в детстве? Ну, ясен пень )) - Dionysos 01:38 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Re: Ах, в детстве? Ну, ясен пень )) - Head 02:07 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                      • Re: Ах, в детстве? Ну, ясен пень )) - А. Копцев 08:37 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                  • Re: Это плохие примеры, из серии - А. Копцев 08:31 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                       • Re: Это плохие примеры, из серии - Head 10:33 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • Ну так не ломайте его ;-) (0) - Dionysos 13:11 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Re: Ну так не ломайте его ;-) - Head 14:22 13/03/18
                                                                                                    • Re: пожалуй - Head 19:54 12/03/18
                                                                                                         • Re: отвечу - Dionysos 21:59 12/03/18
                                                                                                              • Переименование аэропорта "Платов" в "Чикатило" - А. Копцев 22:50 12/03/18
                                                                                                                   • Re: Переименование аэропорта "Платов" в "Чикатило" - serg33 07:09 13/03/18
                                                                                                              • Re: отвечу - Head 23:46 12/03/18
                                                                                                                   • Re: отвечу - Dionysos 03:21 13/03/18
                                                                                                                        • Re: отвечу - Head 05:57 13/03/18
                                                                                                                             • Re: отвечуууу - Dionysos 17:02 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                  • Re: отвечуууу - Head 00:11 14/03/18
                                                                                                                                       • Re: чуууу - Dionysos 17:07 14/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • Re: чуууу - Head 00:39 16/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Re: чуууу-чуууу - Dionysos 03:43 16/03/18
                                                                                                                                                      • Re: чуууу-чуууу - Head 14:51 16/03/18
                                                                                                                                                           • Уж ночь на дворе, чур меня. - Dionysos 02:20 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                • доброе утро - Head 12:04 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                     • И вам добрый день - Dionysos 15:50 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: И вам добрый день - Head 16:41 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                               • День-день - Dionysos 17:20 18/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                    • вечер) - Head 23:49 18/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                         • вот щас пришел пресс-релиз - Head 16:47 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: вот щас пришел пресс-релиз - DF 17:31 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • пресс-релиз - Head 19:48 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Re: пресс-релиз - DF 01:30 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • рефлекс - Head 01:48 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Остановки без открытия дверей - Dionysos 03:58 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - Head 11:08 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - DF 12:08 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - Head 13:37 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - DF 14:07 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - Head 15:29 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - DF 16:36 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: рефлекс - DF 06:54 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: рефлекс - Head 11:02 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: рефлекс - DF 12:03 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: рефлекс - Head 13:34 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: рефлекс - DF 14:13 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Re: рефлекс - Head 15:27 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Re: рефлекс - DF 16:29 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     • Re: рефлекс - Head 22:37 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: рефлекс - DF 01:00 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • О, Котельники :) (0) - Dionysos 03:59 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Не, на Котельниках толп в час пик практически не бывает (0) - DF 06:56 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • А где? (-) думал, только там резервные - Dionysos 12:54 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: А где? (-) думал, только там резервные - DF 14:10 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • По Выхино опять есть зона? - Dionysos 14:27 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: По Выхино опять есть зона? - DF 15:21 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Re: Страсти - Dionysos 17:55 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Ну и что? - Dionysos 19:20 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Re: Ну и что? - Head 19:36 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Ну сколько можно? - Dionysos 19:50 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • действительно - Head 01:30 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: действительно - Dionysos 18:19 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: действительно - Head 21:29 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • о прогрессе инфографики - Head 16:34 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: о прогрессе инфографики - DF 16:52 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Мне вот пришло на почту от mos.ru - Dionysos 19:11 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: вечер вечен - Dionysos 20:45 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • ночь) - Head 01:02 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Кому как - Dionysos 17:36 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • опять ночь - Head 02:15 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Ночь так ночь - Dionysos 04:10 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • утро - Head 07:11 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Закат скоро - Dionysos 17:36 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Закат скоро - Head 01:07 23/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: день-дребедень - Dionysos 17:03 23/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: день-дребедень - Head 18:42 23/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Андрей-воробей, не гоняй голубей! - Dionysos 17:31 24/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • ночь) - Head 03:27 25/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     • прочь ) - Dionysos 15:19 25/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: прочь ) - Head 18:34 25/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               • Точь-в-точь - Dionysos 16:33 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Re: Точь-в-точь - Head 19:21 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: мочало - Dionysos 21:28 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: мочало - Head 00:38 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Re: кончало - Dionysos 01:41 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: официоз. Ну почти - Dionysos 21:32 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: официоз. Ну почти - Head 23:28 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Неужто опять в Москве? ) - Dionysos 01:37 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • угу - Head 02:26 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Re: угу - DF 07:27 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: угу - Head 13:45 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: угу - DF 16:31 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: угу - Head 20:42 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • А вот еще финт - Head 22:56 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: финт - Dionysos 00:18 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Значит, на ГЗЛ так… хм. - Dionysos 16:17 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Новости геометрии, в догонку центральных диаметров (+) - DF 16:28 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • А если не про геометрию - Dionysos 19:31 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: А если не про геометрию - DF 13:48 29/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Значит, на ГЗЛ так… хм. - Head 20:46 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: Значит, на ГЗЛ так… хм. - DF 21:17 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • по приколу бывает и КФЛ :). - Dionysos 00:12 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: по приколу бывает и КФЛ :). - DF 00:34 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • или тру-метрофанат :)) (-) - Dionysos 01:07 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • реакция - Head 23:30 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Ну и вот. - Dionysos 01:31 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Re: Ну и вот. - Head 20:48 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Вот и нет - Dionysos 00:15 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Вот и нет - Head 19:12 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Уж какие есть - Dionysos 19:33 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Уж какие есть - Head 00:24 29/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • а хрен их знает ) - Dionysos 00:33 29/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                    • пресса - Head 23:50 18/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: пресса - Dionysos 20:16 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: пресса - Head 01:14 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Re: пресса - Dionysos 17:57 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Re: пресса - Head 06:36 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Re: пресса-шмесса - Dionysos 18:11 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: пресса-шмесса - Head 00:57 23/03/18


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