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Re: пожалуй

Отправлено: Head 18:54 12/03/18

> > конечно не используют! какой болван будет ломать > язык об ТКЛ, СТЛ, КЛР эти... > > Не стóит
всех под одну гребёнку болванами величать. > > Но они и короткие названия не юзают, вот ведь. Так что > штука
сложнее, чем кажется.

тем не менее название требуется, хотя бы по той тупой причине, что регулярные цвета кончились.


> > > >> Даже Филёвскую, логичное и короткое название, мало > > используют.

я использую ) а вот большинство остальных стремлюсь сокращать, ибо непроизносимо.
опять же, это вопрос краткости. Даже "Филевская" дольше говорить, чем "голубая". Но цветов не хватает, значит надо найти
короткие названия.


> > > > вот вообще не вижу никакого криминала в этом. > > Полно линий без станций с таким же названием, и
> ничего. > > И ничего хорошего, путаница только.

чего вдруг путаница? кто путается в том, что замоскворецкая линия не имеет станции с таким названием?



> > > > не ну можно конечно обозвать Питерской, > предварительно переименовав проспект и шоссе )) > >
Питерской не прокатит, это слэнг.

мда? в интернетах пишут, что ровно так неофициально именуется собственно тверская плюс возможно ленинградка.




> > > > совершенно не требуется, чтобы линия большей частью > шла через такой проспект. Достаточно
нескольких > станций. > > Достаточно – для тех, кто ориентируется в городе.

название линий не обязано служить какой-то ориентацией вообще в городе. Оно должно служить обозначением на сети метро /
гортранспорта, ну и по возможности мало-мальски соответствовать каким-то наземным ориентирам.



> > > > чтобы вспомнить, что линия названа по имени вокзала, > надо сначала вспомнить как она называется
)))) > > Или хорошо знать город. Либо быть гиком. Увы, да, нас > мало )

потому ориентироваться надо не на вас, all due respect, а на обычных юзеров.



> > > > > Подытожим. > 1) название по конечным (могут > продлить, придётся > менять. И довольно
длинно). > > > очень странная фантазия. > > Просто как вариант. Видимо, тоже не для России.

да вообще ни для чего. Есть единичные случаи (Waterloo & City в Лондоне например), когда это годится.



> > > > > 3) название по какой-либо из центральных станций > (тоже > спорно, не всегда однозначно,
очевидно и > информативно) > > > ....но приемлемо. > > Не уверен. Ибо ничего не говорит пассажиру линии,
> едущему _из_ центра, куда идут хвосты линии.

черт, да и не должно! невозможно в названии линии, даже самом длинном, однозначно описать куда там по ней можно доехать.



> > > > >> 4) по ключевым станциям: вокзальным, пересечениям > с > Кольцом и т. п. Киевско-
Курская, Белорусско- > > Павелецкая. Таганско-Краснопресненская уже есть )) > > Минус – длинно, как и сейчас.
> > > нет, только не двойные названия. > > Какой-то карго-культ :)))

культ удобства, я бы сказал.



> > Дело в том, что Москва так уж устроена: большинство > пользуется лишь одним радиусом из диаметра, т. е. >
одной половинкой от центра (от Кольца). Жителю > Царицыно совершенно ни о чём Петербургская линия, и т. > д.

жителям царицыно совершенно ни о чем и замоскворецкая или там допустим "домодедовская" линия. Нельзя в названии всё описать.
Более того, жителям царицыно вообще все равно, даже если линия допустим называется "ведро".



> > > >> 5) цвета – народный вариант уже сейчас, но > однозначных > цветов хватать перестало. >
> > и будет хуже. > > Тем не менее, именно их юзает большинство. > Удивительно, но факт.

ничего удивительного, учитывая непроизносимость официальных названий.
Но сделать официальными цвета невозможно.



> > > >> 6) цифры. Сложнее запоминать при таком количестве, > > чем цвета. > > > но
неизбежно. Особенно для стран с нелатинским > местным алфавитом. > > Класть местные хотели на эти цифры, повторюсь
:)) как и > на названия. Иностранцы – юзают цифры, да. >

я тоже не использую цифры, они безличны (куда лучше короткие, но запоминающиеся названия). Но иностранцам без них сложно.
А кстати, вон в Питере вроде цифры никого не напрягают?


Комментарии:
Сергей Собянин открыл 5 новых станций метр - serg33 12:54 26/02/18
     • Замечу - Dionysos 14:02 26/02/18
          • Re: Замечу - Naure 15:15 26/02/18
               • Re: Замечу - Head 15:19 26/02/18
                    • Узнать-то всё можно было, но - Dionysos 16:01 26/02/18
                         • Узнать что? Что откроют сами станции? )) - Vsevolod 22:03 28/02/18
                              • Re: Узнать что? Что откроют сами станции? )) - Dionysos 22:29 28/02/18
                                   • Я не про схемы - Vsevolod 22:36 28/02/18
                                        • А, ну какие у нас даты :(( - Dionysos 22:43 28/02/18
                    • Re: Замечу - serg33 20:32 26/02/18
                         • Re: Замечу - Head 21:48 27/02/18
                              • Re: Замечу - serg33 06:43 28/02/18
                                   • Re: Замечу - Head 17:41 28/02/18
                                        • Re: Замечу - serg33 08:37 01/03/18
                                             • и очень плохо (-) - Head 11:16 01/03/18
                                                  • Re: и очень плохо (-) - serg33 17:13 02/03/18
                                                       • Re: и очень плохо - Head 19:48 02/03/18
                                                            • Re: и очень плохо - serg33 22:01 02/03/18
                                                                 • Re: и очень плохо - Head 15:42 03/03/18
                                                                      • Это конечно плохо, да (-) - serg33 11:11 04/03/18
               • Ну, справедливости ради… - Dionysos 15:59 26/02/18
                    • Re: Ну, справедливости ради… - Naure 16:32 26/02/18
                         • И так, и не так. - Dionysos 16:36 26/02/18
                              • Re: И так, и не так. - serg33 20:34 26/02/18
                                   • Про бум не спорю - Vsevolod 22:22 28/02/18
                                        • На плакатах и в релизах СтройМоса всегда гон - Dionysos 22:41 28/02/18
                                             • Re: На плакатах и в релизах СтройМоса всегда гон - Naure 02:15 01/03/18
                                                  • Нет, не считается (-) - Dionysos 03:12 01/03/18
     • Новенькое про МЦД - Dionysos 03:18 28/02/18
     • Скидочка на Сапсанчики СПб-НН - Dionysos 15:57 28/02/18
     • Re: Сергей Собянин открыл 5 новых - интересный случай (+) - DF 19:05 08/03/18
          • Re: вторую платформу на Полежаевской - Dionysos 21:43 08/03/18
               • Re: вторую платформу на Полежаевской - DF 22:59 08/03/18
          • Re: Сергей Собянин открыл 5 новых - интересный случай (+) - Head 23:49 08/03/18
               • Речь о Полежаевской-ТКЛ, а не о Хорошёвской-БКЛ :) (-) - Dionysos 01:21 09/03/18
                    • а - Head 02:19 09/03/18
                         • В конкретном случае это помогло бы не запутаться? :)) - Dionysos 02:59 09/03/18
                              • какой норматив? - Head 04:06 09/03/18
                                   • Re: какой норматив? - Dionysos 15:14 09/03/18
                                        • Re: какой норматив? - Head 15:29 09/03/18
                                             • Это да, хорошо, что отменили. Но... - Dionysos 15:53 09/03/18
                                                  • Re: Это да, хорошо, что отменили. Но... - Head 04:03 10/03/18
                                                       • Нууу, начинается ) - Dionysos 11:54 10/03/18
                                                            • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - Head 13:36 10/03/18
                                                                 • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - DF 13:42 10/03/18
                                                                 • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - Dionysos 14:29 10/03/18
                                                                      • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - Head 16:00 10/03/18
                                                                           • Названьица - А. Копцев 00:07 10/04/18
                                                                                • Re: Названьица - Head 08:40 11/03/18
                                                                                     • Re: Названьица - А. Копцев 13:58 11/03/18
                                                                                          • Re: Названьица - Head 18:15 11/03/18
                                                                                               • Re: Названьица - А. Копцев 21:42 11/03/18
                                                                                                    • Re: Названьица - Head 22:25 11/03/18
                                                                                                         • Re: Названьица - А. Копцев 10:20 12/03/18
                                                                                                              • Re: Названьица - Head 15:22 12/03/18
                                                                           • Отвечу, пожалуй, только на это: - Dionysos 04:00 11/03/18
                                                                                • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй, только на это: - Head 08:35 11/03/18
                                                                                     • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй, только на это: - Head 12:53 11/03/18
                                                                                     • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй - Dionysos 19:58 11/03/18
                                                                                          • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй - Head 20:15 11/03/18
                                                                                               • Re: пожалуй - Dionysos 17:54 12/03/18
                                                                                                    • Вдогонку: п.3 невозможен - Dionysos 18:16 12/03/18
                                                                                                         • Re: Вдогонку: п.3 невозможен - Head 19:56 12/03/18
                                                                                                              • Причём тут лондонцы? - Dionysos 21:27 12/03/18
                                                                                                                   • Re: Причём тут лондонцы? - Head 23:12 12/03/18
                                                                                                                        • Это плохие примеры, из серии - Dionysos 23:40 12/03/18
                                                                                                                             • Re: Это плохие примеры, из серии - Head 23:48 12/03/18
                                                                                                                                  • И две Арбатских и Смоленских - Dionysos 00:41 12/04/18
                                                                                                                                       • Re: И две Арбатских и Смоленских - Head 00:34 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • о времена - Head 00:54 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Наверное, я это и правда писал из апреля ) (-) - Dionysos 01:35 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                      • из первого? ) (-) - Head 03:22 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • Ах, в детстве? Ну, ясен пень )) - Dionysos 01:38 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Re: Ах, в детстве? Ну, ясен пень )) - Head 02:07 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                      • Re: Ах, в детстве? Ну, ясен пень )) - А. Копцев 08:37 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                  • Re: Это плохие примеры, из серии - А. Копцев 08:31 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                       • Re: Это плохие примеры, из серии - Head 10:33 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • Ну так не ломайте его ;-) (0) - Dionysos 13:11 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Re: Ну так не ломайте его ;-) - Head 14:22 13/03/18
                                                                                                    • Re: пожалуй - Head 19:54 12/03/18
                                                                                                         • Re: отвечу - Dionysos 21:59 12/03/18
                                                                                                              • Переименование аэропорта "Платов" в "Чикатило" - А. Копцев 22:50 12/03/18
                                                                                                                   • Re: Переименование аэропорта "Платов" в "Чикатило" - serg33 07:09 13/03/18
                                                                                                              • Re: отвечу - Head 23:46 12/03/18
                                                                                                                   • Re: отвечу - Dionysos 03:21 13/03/18
                                                                                                                        • Re: отвечу - Head 05:57 13/03/18
                                                                                                                             • Re: отвечуууу - Dionysos 17:02 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                  • Re: отвечуууу - Head 00:11 14/03/18
                                                                                                                                       • Re: чуууу - Dionysos 17:07 14/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • Re: чуууу - Head 00:39 16/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Re: чуууу-чуууу - Dionysos 03:43 16/03/18
                                                                                                                                                      • Re: чуууу-чуууу - Head 14:51 16/03/18
                                                                                                                                                           • Уж ночь на дворе, чур меня. - Dionysos 02:20 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                • доброе утро - Head 12:04 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                     • И вам добрый день - Dionysos 15:50 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: И вам добрый день - Head 16:41 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                               • День-день - Dionysos 17:20 18/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                    • вечер) - Head 23:49 18/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                         • вот щас пришел пресс-релиз - Head 16:47 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: вот щас пришел пресс-релиз - DF 17:31 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • пресс-релиз - Head 19:48 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Re: пресс-релиз - DF 01:30 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • рефлекс - Head 01:48 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Остановки без открытия дверей - Dionysos 03:58 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - Head 11:08 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - DF 12:08 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - Head 13:37 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - DF 14:07 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - Head 15:29 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - DF 16:36 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: рефлекс - DF 06:54 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: рефлекс - Head 11:02 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: рефлекс - DF 12:03 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: рефлекс - Head 13:34 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: рефлекс - DF 14:13 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Re: рефлекс - Head 15:27 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Re: рефлекс - DF 16:29 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     • Re: рефлекс - Head 22:37 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: рефлекс - DF 01:00 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • О, Котельники :) (0) - Dionysos 03:59 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Не, на Котельниках толп в час пик практически не бывает (0) - DF 06:56 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • А где? (-) думал, только там резервные - Dionysos 12:54 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: А где? (-) думал, только там резервные - DF 14:10 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • По Выхино опять есть зона? - Dionysos 14:27 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: По Выхино опять есть зона? - DF 15:21 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Re: Страсти - Dionysos 17:55 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Ну и что? - Dionysos 19:20 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Re: Ну и что? - Head 19:36 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Ну сколько можно? - Dionysos 19:50 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • действительно - Head 01:30 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: действительно - Dionysos 18:19 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: действительно - Head 21:29 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • о прогрессе инфографики - Head 16:34 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: о прогрессе инфографики - DF 16:52 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Мне вот пришло на почту от mos.ru - Dionysos 19:11 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: вечер вечен - Dionysos 20:45 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • ночь) - Head 01:02 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Кому как - Dionysos 17:36 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • опять ночь - Head 02:15 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Ночь так ночь - Dionysos 04:10 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • утро - Head 07:11 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Закат скоро - Dionysos 17:36 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Закат скоро - Head 01:07 23/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: день-дребедень - Dionysos 17:03 23/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: день-дребедень - Head 18:42 23/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Андрей-воробей, не гоняй голубей! - Dionysos 17:31 24/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • ночь) - Head 03:27 25/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     • прочь ) - Dionysos 15:19 25/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: прочь ) - Head 18:34 25/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               • Точь-в-точь - Dionysos 16:33 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Re: Точь-в-точь - Head 19:21 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: мочало - Dionysos 21:28 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: мочало - Head 00:38 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Re: кончало - Dionysos 01:41 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: официоз. Ну почти - Dionysos 21:32 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: официоз. Ну почти - Head 23:28 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Неужто опять в Москве? ) - Dionysos 01:37 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • угу - Head 02:26 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Re: угу - DF 07:27 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: угу - Head 13:45 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: угу - DF 16:31 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: угу - Head 20:42 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • А вот еще финт - Head 22:56 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: финт - Dionysos 00:18 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Значит, на ГЗЛ так… хм. - Dionysos 16:17 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Новости геометрии, в догонку центральных диаметров (+) - DF 16:28 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • А если не про геометрию - Dionysos 19:31 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: А если не про геометрию - DF 13:48 29/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Значит, на ГЗЛ так… хм. - Head 20:46 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: Значит, на ГЗЛ так… хм. - DF 21:17 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • по приколу бывает и КФЛ :). - Dionysos 00:12 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: по приколу бывает и КФЛ :). - DF 00:34 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • или тру-метрофанат :)) (-) - Dionysos 01:07 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • реакция - Head 23:30 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Ну и вот. - Dionysos 01:31 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Re: Ну и вот. - Head 20:48 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Вот и нет - Dionysos 00:15 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Вот и нет - Head 19:12 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Уж какие есть - Dionysos 19:33 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Уж какие есть - Head 00:24 29/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • а хрен их знает ) - Dionysos 00:33 29/03/18
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