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Re: отвечуууу

Отправлено: Head 00:11 14/03/18

> > отчего прижилось в Лондоне или Токио? > > За Японию ничего не скажу, а в Англии – язык более > краткий, как я уже говорил! > > Сравним количество
слогов: Sokolniki line и > Сокольническая линия ))) Любое прилагательное в > русском требует суффикса и окончания. И ещё в слове > линия оно есть. Вот так и набегает
> «зубодробительность», от которой Инглиш давно > избавился. Но что тут поделаешь? > > Название же «Линия Сокольники» по-русски будет > стилистически и
грамматически неправильным. Ещё и > путаницу вызовет: переход на станцию Сокольники > (такое правда будет лет через 5), в другом месте – > переход на линию Сокольники…

да это все так, только и в русском можно выдумать короткие имена.


бред. > > Варианты вроде «Линия Мира» просьба не предлагать, > это ужасный совок в худшем смысле. (Я бы и сам > проспект давно переименовал.)

я бы тоже ) а как вообще эта улица называлась до исторического материализма? )


> > Вариант «Тверская линия» вроде максимально краток, но > на других направлениях такое фиг подберёшь _везде_.

можно отвлеченные названия, вполне.


> > > > короче - мы пришли к тому, что названия могут вполне > себе не зависеть от географии, так? и это не приведет к > коллапсу в мозгах паксов? >
> По той простой причине, что большинству паксов в > принципе пофигу названия линий как класс, хоть > длинные, хоть короткие, хоть логичные, хоть нет. Их мозг >
понимает Кольцевую линию – не за название, а за форму. > Остальное подменяет цветами и «верхом-низом», кто > более продвинутый – севером-югом и проч. :)

отлично, значит от коротких имен никаких новых проблем не возникнет, а старые уменьшатся.


> > Сдаётся мне, вы давно не попадали на всякие закрытия и > пр. Давно уже в прошлом страшные огромные листы А0 с > чёрным текстом вида «многабуков». Повторю, на
объявах > красивые картинки, с названиями, цветами и номерами. > И схемами нужных участков.

в метро - да (если не считать устных объявлений). А в СМИ? )))


> > Устные в вагонах: давно везде дубляж на английский. > Там номер говорят. Уж числительные английские понять > в состоянии многие.

вот глубоко сомневаюсь что многие ориентируются на номера в английском переводе. Тем более что, согласно вам, цифровое узнавание линий вообще последнее по популярности.



> > На эскалаторах большинство в принципе ничего не может > расслышать и разобрать (нужен более тонкий слух, а он у > меньшинства, увы).

вполне разборчиво там.



> > Но на эскалаторах только в случае плановых работ либо > ЧП каких-то можно в объявах названия линий услышать.

именно. Эти объявления как раз довольно важны, верно? ибо это оперативная инфа, которой нет в наглядной агитации. И в таких объявлениях нет цветов-номеров.



> > > > Т.е. чаще всего пакс встречается ТОЛЬКО с > названиями линий, без цвета и номера. И не просто чаще, > а во много раз чаще. > > Это точно
про Москву?)))) Где такое вообще? Везде > названия давно сопровождаются кружочком с номером и > цветом!

см выше.


> > > > Тогда как случаев информации без названий линий > почти не бывает - разве что эти дурацкие указатели на > полу пересадочных станций? > >
Отчего ж они дурацкие?

малозаметны, малоинформативны и далеко не всегда на пути конкретного пакса. Да и не ждет пакс указателей под ногами.


> > > черт... а раньше как говорили? > > Полными названиями, насколько помню. Люди вообще > спокойнее были и сосредоточеннее, без этого вот > «клипового
сознания» ;)

кажется это не столько клиповое создание, сколько клиповая навигация-информация. Раньше некоторые схемы (часто неофициальные) вообще черно-белые были. Да и навигация как правило
тоже.


> > Светло-зелёной ещё ладно, но назвать такой цвет > жёлтым – совсем за гранью. Сорри ))))

а мне пофиг. Я не цветовой эстет и не компьютер с разрешением в ХХ миллионов цветов )


> > > > люблинской. > > Ну и на здоровье ) > > > > я ж и говорю, будет полосато-сиреневая какая-нить. > Сделают все жд-диаметры полосатыми
для такого > отличия. > > Возможно. Но их мало кто будет считать линиями метро, > ибо они будут ещё меньше похожи на него, чем МЦК. >

чем бы их не считали, но на схему их воткнут, и с этим придется считаться.


Комментарии:
Сергей Собянин открыл 5 новых станций метр - serg33 12:54 26/02/18
     • Замечу - Dionysos 14:02 26/02/18
          • Re: Замечу - Naure 15:15 26/02/18
               • Re: Замечу - Head 15:19 26/02/18
                    • Узнать-то всё можно было, но - Dionysos 16:01 26/02/18
                         • Узнать что? Что откроют сами станции? )) - Vsevolod 22:03 28/02/18
                              • Re: Узнать что? Что откроют сами станции? )) - Dionysos 22:29 28/02/18
                                   • Я не про схемы - Vsevolod 22:36 28/02/18
                                        • А, ну какие у нас даты :(( - Dionysos 22:43 28/02/18
                    • Re: Замечу - serg33 20:32 26/02/18
                         • Re: Замечу - Head 21:48 27/02/18
                              • Re: Замечу - serg33 06:43 28/02/18
                                   • Re: Замечу - Head 17:41 28/02/18
                                        • Re: Замечу - serg33 08:37 01/03/18
                                             • и очень плохо (-) - Head 11:16 01/03/18
                                                  • Re: и очень плохо (-) - serg33 17:13 02/03/18
                                                       • Re: и очень плохо - Head 19:48 02/03/18
                                                            • Re: и очень плохо - serg33 22:01 02/03/18
                                                                 • Re: и очень плохо - Head 15:42 03/03/18
                                                                      • Это конечно плохо, да (-) - serg33 11:11 04/03/18
               • Ну, справедливости ради… - Dionysos 15:59 26/02/18
                    • Re: Ну, справедливости ради… - Naure 16:32 26/02/18
                         • И так, и не так. - Dionysos 16:36 26/02/18
                              • Re: И так, и не так. - serg33 20:34 26/02/18
                                   • Про бум не спорю - Vsevolod 22:22 28/02/18
                                        • На плакатах и в релизах СтройМоса всегда гон - Dionysos 22:41 28/02/18
                                             • Re: На плакатах и в релизах СтройМоса всегда гон - Naure 02:15 01/03/18
                                                  • Нет, не считается (-) - Dionysos 03:12 01/03/18
     • Новенькое про МЦД - Dionysos 03:18 28/02/18
     • Скидочка на Сапсанчики СПб-НН - Dionysos 15:57 28/02/18
     • Re: Сергей Собянин открыл 5 новых - интересный случай (+) - DF 19:05 08/03/18
          • Re: вторую платформу на Полежаевской - Dionysos 21:43 08/03/18
               • Re: вторую платформу на Полежаевской - DF 22:59 08/03/18
          • Re: Сергей Собянин открыл 5 новых - интересный случай (+) - Head 23:49 08/03/18
               • Речь о Полежаевской-ТКЛ, а не о Хорошёвской-БКЛ :) (-) - Dionysos 01:21 09/03/18
                    • а - Head 02:19 09/03/18
                         • В конкретном случае это помогло бы не запутаться? :)) - Dionysos 02:59 09/03/18
                              • какой норматив? - Head 04:06 09/03/18
                                   • Re: какой норматив? - Dionysos 15:14 09/03/18
                                        • Re: какой норматив? - Head 15:29 09/03/18
                                             • Это да, хорошо, что отменили. Но... - Dionysos 15:53 09/03/18
                                                  • Re: Это да, хорошо, что отменили. Но... - Head 04:03 10/03/18
                                                       • Нууу, начинается ) - Dionysos 11:54 10/03/18
                                                            • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - Head 13:36 10/03/18
                                                                 • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - DF 13:42 10/03/18
                                                                 • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - Dionysos 14:29 10/03/18
                                                                      • Re: Нууу, начинается ) - Head 16:00 10/03/18
                                                                           • Названьица - А. Копцев 00:07 10/04/18
                                                                                • Re: Названьица - Head 08:40 11/03/18
                                                                                     • Re: Названьица - А. Копцев 13:58 11/03/18
                                                                                          • Re: Названьица - Head 18:15 11/03/18
                                                                                               • Re: Названьица - А. Копцев 21:42 11/03/18
                                                                                                    • Re: Названьица - Head 22:25 11/03/18
                                                                                                         • Re: Названьица - А. Копцев 10:20 12/03/18
                                                                                                              • Re: Названьица - Head 15:22 12/03/18
                                                                           • Отвечу, пожалуй, только на это: - Dionysos 04:00 11/03/18
                                                                                • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй, только на это: - Head 08:35 11/03/18
                                                                                     • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй, только на это: - Head 12:53 11/03/18
                                                                                     • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй - Dionysos 19:58 11/03/18
                                                                                          • Re: Отвечу, пожалуй - Head 20:15 11/03/18
                                                                                               • Re: пожалуй - Dionysos 17:54 12/03/18
                                                                                                    • Вдогонку: п.3 невозможен - Dionysos 18:16 12/03/18
                                                                                                         • Re: Вдогонку: п.3 невозможен - Head 19:56 12/03/18
                                                                                                              • Причём тут лондонцы? - Dionysos 21:27 12/03/18
                                                                                                                   • Re: Причём тут лондонцы? - Head 23:12 12/03/18
                                                                                                                        • Это плохие примеры, из серии - Dionysos 23:40 12/03/18
                                                                                                                             • Re: Это плохие примеры, из серии - Head 23:48 12/03/18
                                                                                                                                  • И две Арбатских и Смоленских - Dionysos 00:41 12/04/18
                                                                                                                                       • Re: И две Арбатских и Смоленских - Head 00:34 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • о времена - Head 00:54 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Наверное, я это и правда писал из апреля ) (-) - Dionysos 01:35 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                      • из первого? ) (-) - Head 03:22 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • Ах, в детстве? Ну, ясен пень )) - Dionysos 01:38 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Re: Ах, в детстве? Ну, ясен пень )) - Head 02:07 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                      • Re: Ах, в детстве? Ну, ясен пень )) - А. Копцев 08:37 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                  • Re: Это плохие примеры, из серии - А. Копцев 08:31 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                       • Re: Это плохие примеры, из серии - Head 10:33 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • Ну так не ломайте его ;-) (0) - Dionysos 13:11 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Re: Ну так не ломайте его ;-) - Head 14:22 13/03/18
                                                                                                    • Re: пожалуй - Head 19:54 12/03/18
                                                                                                         • Re: отвечу - Dionysos 21:59 12/03/18
                                                                                                              • Переименование аэропорта "Платов" в "Чикатило" - А. Копцев 22:50 12/03/18
                                                                                                                   • Re: Переименование аэропорта "Платов" в "Чикатило" - serg33 07:09 13/03/18
                                                                                                              • Re: отвечу - Head 23:46 12/03/18
                                                                                                                   • Re: отвечу - Dionysos 03:21 13/03/18
                                                                                                                        • Re: отвечу - Head 05:57 13/03/18
                                                                                                                             • Re: отвечуууу - Dionysos 17:02 13/03/18
                                                                                                                                  • Re: отвечуууу - Head 00:11 14/03/18
                                                                                                                                       • Re: чуууу - Dionysos 17:07 14/03/18
                                                                                                                                            • Re: чуууу - Head 00:39 16/03/18
                                                                                                                                                 • Re: чуууу-чуууу - Dionysos 03:43 16/03/18
                                                                                                                                                      • Re: чуууу-чуууу - Head 14:51 16/03/18
                                                                                                                                                           • Уж ночь на дворе, чур меня. - Dionysos 02:20 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                • доброе утро - Head 12:04 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                     • И вам добрый день - Dionysos 15:50 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: И вам добрый день - Head 16:41 17/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                               • День-день - Dionysos 17:20 18/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                    • вечер) - Head 23:49 18/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                         • вот щас пришел пресс-релиз - Head 16:47 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: вот щас пришел пресс-релиз - DF 17:31 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • пресс-релиз - Head 19:48 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Re: пресс-релиз - DF 01:30 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • рефлекс - Head 01:48 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Остановки без открытия дверей - Dionysos 03:58 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - Head 11:08 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - DF 12:08 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - Head 13:37 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - DF 14:07 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - Head 15:29 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Re: Остановки без открытия дверей - DF 16:36 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: рефлекс - DF 06:54 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: рефлекс - Head 11:02 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: рефлекс - DF 12:03 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: рефлекс - Head 13:34 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: рефлекс - DF 14:13 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Re: рефлекс - Head 15:27 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Re: рефлекс - DF 16:29 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     • Re: рефлекс - Head 22:37 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: рефлекс - DF 01:00 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • О, Котельники :) (0) - Dionysos 03:59 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Не, на Котельниках толп в час пик практически не бывает (0) - DF 06:56 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • А где? (-) думал, только там резервные - Dionysos 12:54 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: А где? (-) думал, только там резервные - DF 14:10 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • По Выхино опять есть зона? - Dionysos 14:27 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: По Выхино опять есть зона? - DF 15:21 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Re: Страсти - Dionysos 17:55 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Ну и что? - Dionysos 19:20 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Re: Ну и что? - Head 19:36 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Ну сколько можно? - Dionysos 19:50 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • действительно - Head 01:30 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: действительно - Dionysos 18:19 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: действительно - Head 21:29 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • о прогрессе инфографики - Head 16:34 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: о прогрессе инфографики - DF 16:52 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Мне вот пришло на почту от mos.ru - Dionysos 19:11 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: вечер вечен - Dionysos 20:45 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • ночь) - Head 01:02 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Кому как - Dionysos 17:36 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • опять ночь - Head 02:15 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Ночь так ночь - Dionysos 04:10 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • утро - Head 07:11 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Закат скоро - Dionysos 17:36 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Закат скоро - Head 01:07 23/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • Re: день-дребедень - Dionysos 17:03 23/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: день-дребедень - Head 18:42 23/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           • Андрей-воробей, не гоняй голубей! - Dionysos 17:31 24/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • ночь) - Head 03:27 25/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     • прочь ) - Dionysos 15:19 25/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: прочь ) - Head 18:34 25/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               • Точь-в-точь - Dionysos 16:33 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Re: Точь-в-точь - Head 19:21 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: мочало - Dionysos 21:28 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: мочало - Head 00:38 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Re: кончало - Dionysos 01:41 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: официоз. Ну почти - Dionysos 21:32 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: официоз. Ну почти - Head 23:28 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Неужто опять в Москве? ) - Dionysos 01:37 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • угу - Head 02:26 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Re: угу - DF 07:27 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: угу - Head 13:45 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: угу - DF 16:31 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: угу - Head 20:42 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • А вот еще финт - Head 22:56 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: финт - Dionysos 00:18 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Значит, на ГЗЛ так… хм. - Dionysos 16:17 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Новости геометрии, в догонку центральных диаметров (+) - DF 16:28 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • А если не про геометрию - Dionysos 19:31 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: А если не про геометрию - DF 13:48 29/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Значит, на ГЗЛ так… хм. - Head 20:46 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Re: Значит, на ГЗЛ так… хм. - DF 21:17 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • по приколу бывает и КФЛ :). - Dionysos 00:12 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: по приколу бывает и КФЛ :). - DF 00:34 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • или тру-метрофанат :)) (-) - Dionysos 01:07 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • реакция - Head 23:30 26/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Ну и вот. - Dionysos 01:31 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Re: Ну и вот. - Head 20:48 27/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Вот и нет - Dionysos 00:15 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Вот и нет - Head 19:12 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       • Уж какие есть - Dionysos 19:33 28/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Уж какие есть - Head 00:24 29/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 • а хрен их знает ) - Dionysos 00:33 29/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                    • пресса - Head 23:50 18/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                         • Re: пресса - Dionysos 20:16 19/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Re: пресса - Head 01:14 20/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                   • Re: пресса - Dionysos 17:57 21/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Re: пресса - Head 06:36 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                             • Re: пресса-шмесса - Dionysos 18:11 22/03/18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: пресса-шмесса - Head 00:57 23/03/18


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